I often feel a bit shy to point out inconsistencies of grammar and spelling, being after all a blodi forrener and very often hasty and careless to check before I post, but further to a lament from [livejournal.com profile] cyber_child (unfortunately in a protected post, so only people in his flist can see it), here is one more annoying little thing that I see every day, a very common one:

'It's' is not a possessive adjective or pronoun. It is a contraction of 'it' and 'is'. So, please, "the dog and it's puppy" would mean, if anything, that the dog was a puppy -or something like that. It would not mean 'the dog and the puppy of the dog'.

'Your' and 'you're', likewise, are not interchangeable!

Some of the other obvious ones (with the medal of honour going to 'I would of done') in Bob's post..

< /pedantic>
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From: [personal profile] reddragdiva


As a non-native speaker, you'll be more aware of the rules and exceptions than many native speakers. (I learnt most of what I know about English grammar in French class ...) Hence the common phenomenon of non-native speakers having much better written English than native speakers.

From: [identity profile] miss-soap.livejournal.com


Unfortunately once people reach a certain age, if they've not properly assimilated correct use of possessive apostrophes, it's very unlikely that they ever will. It is an anomaly that "its" doesn't take any kind of apostrophe, along with "yours" and "mine", as opposed to "the dog's", "James's" etc. Ah grammar, how I love thee.

'Would of' drives me crackers; yesterday there was a thread in which someone corrected this in another's post. The OP wigged out about how she did know the correct form really, but continued to use 'should of' and 'could of' throughout her comments.

From: [identity profile] miss-soap.livejournal.com


Oh, and I'm going to be really pedantic and say your end tag should be </pedantic>

From: [identity profile] flavius-m.livejournal.com

I'll go quietly, officer....


Heh. The LJ client that I was using couldn't handle quoting the html tag without applying it (or I hadn't found a way of doing it). I should have left it out, I suppose.

From: [identity profile] flavius-m.livejournal.com

Re: I'll go quietly, officer....


.. which was easily solved by editing the post in the on-line comment editing page... bah.. :P

From: [identity profile] ex-cooljohn507.livejournal.com

Re: I'll go quietly, officer....


I was reading an article on the increasing use of 'yo' as a gender neutral pronoun replacing the word 'it' the other day, and thought of you :)

From: [identity profile] ex-cooljohn507.livejournal.com

Re: I'll go quietly, officer....


I knew I read it somewhere icky.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=82113&in_page_id=34

There is actually a full research paper available in PDF, should you be particularly bored.
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Re: I'll go quietly, officer....


I know that English has no purity to speak of, but I wish it wasn't that filthy a whore.

From: [identity profile] antitrollpatrol.livejournal.com


the easiest way to remember your and you're for me is:

your - noun (used when describing a noun - your coat, your car)

you're - verb (used when describing a "feeling" etc, you're happy today)


From: [identity profile] mister-ed.livejournal.com


I find it easier just to expand what I'm saying..

"Your coat", if written as "You're coat", would expand to "You are coat" and wouldn't make any sense.

"You're happy" would expand to "You are happy", which is fine.

From: [identity profile] omnisppot.livejournal.com


Your and you're...
Confusing these two (ie not knowing the difference) is inexcusable unless your completely stupid. But if you are a bit thick, then that's a perfect excuse, like being bright but dyslexic. Either way it's just the way you are.
However, I often type them the wrong way because I'm just too lazy to bother checking everything on the way from brain to keyboard. See above for a perfect example. I usually go back and correct them after. Except on lj, cos life's too short for that. :)

From: [identity profile] jupiter909.livejournal.com


What worries me is that in many parts of the UK [see North, but not too far North] the schooling system allows things as such without repercussions:

"Me was doing me work and it were taking a long time."

I though the UK had some sort of standard body to ensure these matters did not arise?

I cringe reading that. I am not the most articulate and prose gifted of people and as such I welcome corrects within reason. What that reason entails is open to debate.


From: [identity profile] jaketherat.livejournal.com


What are you basing that on? I was schooled 'up north' and it doesn't fit my experience. I also know a number of teachers who work throughout the UK and I'm sure they'd also dispute what you say.

From: [identity profile] jaketherat.livejournal.com


erm...

I also know a number of teachers who work throughout the UK and I'm sure they'd dispute what you say.

Pardon me!

From: [identity profile] jupiter909.livejournal.com


I'm basing that on my experience whilst working at a 6th form college in a northern town.

May I back my case with the following link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=413866&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true

I highly suggest you ask the teachers you know to show you samples of the work they need mark and how it is degrading year by year.


From: [identity profile] godgirl.livejournal.com


now i don'd find that as annoying as incorrect apostrophe use or actual spelling errors, as it's indicative of a dialect or way of speaking, rather than incorrectly applied written english.

and no, i don't use capitals when i write lj comments - i'm too lazy...

From: [identity profile] too-many-flies.livejournal.com


confusing your and you're really get on my nerves!

'Its' is one not many people seem to know about, although when typing speedily sometimes i do it by accident (but hopefully realise afterwards!)

general misuse of apostrophes is always annoying.

From: [identity profile] ladymedb.livejournal.com


My favorite running t-shirt says "Good grammar is free"

From: [identity profile] lazrus-armagedn.livejournal.com

You forgot ...


... innit?

When what is meant is "Aren't I?" or "Won't I?", etc.


Gah!

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